My conversation with Dr. Alan Pope is now available from the Podcast link at the top of this page.  Alan’s seminal work on the biocybernetic loop was a key inspiration for developing a concept of physiological computing.  He was probably the first person to take measures from the brain and body and use them in real-time to allow the operator to implicitly communicate with technology.  Our conversation takes in the whole of his career from early work with evoked cortical potentials in clinical psychology to his move to NASA Langley and work in the field of human factors and aviation psychology